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Talking with Donald Miller

Clippings of newspapers beside Blue Like Jazz Movie Poster of young man holding umbrella for young woman

 Don Miller鈥檚 has been made into a film and is opening in select cities this Friday, April 13, and more on Friday, April 20 (see cities and buy tickets ). The book of loosely connected stories has sold nearly two million copies, obviously touching a nerve.

I talked to Don about the process of making a movie, controversy around the film, and what鈥檚 next.

You are nearing your opening. How do you think the project is going?

It鈥檚 good. We feel like the movie is getting good feedback. Thousands of people have seen it now. We don鈥檛 have a big marketing budget, so we hope these people can share about it through social media. There鈥檚 no way to tell how it will do at the box office.

As you鈥檙e coming down to the wire, what are your hopes for the movie?

We just hope this movie becomes, you know, a beloved piece of art鈥ntertainment for a lot of people or a whole group of people who live in this middle ground between the church and the world, between faith and doubt, that they find a home in this film.

In a recent , you wrote about 鈥渃hanging culture.鈥If this film is a fulcrum point for a change in our culture, what would you hope that would be?

The sort of average evangelical has a very dualistic life. They say a lot of right answers but not a lot of true answers. I hope this film paints the middle ground a little bit. There鈥檚 this wrestling between faith and doubt. That鈥檚 where most of my friends are. They are not people of faith, so I live in that, in a couple different cultures. This film lives in a couple different cultures too. I don鈥檛 know if such a film has really been made yet.

I saw the co-writer on the screenplay, Steve Taylor, post about a possible   against Blue Like Jazz. Do you think there is one?

I don鈥檛 think there鈥檚 a Christian conspiracy (against the film). I just think there are people who see Christian faith one way and see anyone who doesn鈥檛 see it their way as antagonistic or threatening.

What鈥檚 been the best part of making the film?

It鈥檚 been a very long process. We鈥檙e pretty weary. But you know, it鈥檚 the relationships.

We made this movie together, become like brothers, from the guys managing the tour to Steve (Taylor, co-writer and director) to Ben (Pearson) the director of photography to even the actors鈥擬arshall (Allman, lead actor) has hung with us on the road. We had over some of the guys who were in the film last night who were not believers. We just all fell in love with each other.

It鈥檚 rare community, an anomaly, to make a piece of art together about their respective faith or lack of faith. I don鈥檛 know if that鈥檚 ever been done. I鈥檝e never seen it. I鈥檝e seen people from different stages come together, and work on projects. But we鈥檝e really clicked.

 

For these artists who are not people of faith, did they sense an ownership of the film that 鈥淭his says something about my experience too鈥?

Two of our actors, Tania Raymonde who we picked up from Lost and Justin Welborn, neither of them people of faith. They both felt like this was a beautiful statement about who they are. We came together and made a movie. And of course the protagonist is a Christian. It doesn鈥檛 have a 鈥渨e鈥檙e right, they鈥檙e wrong鈥 bent. It鈥檚 a guy overcoming his shame of who he is, of being able to be known. I think they really loved that and resonate with that.

The only character in the film who is afraid to be himself is Don. Everybody else is pretty much out with who they are. People from communities who are sort of ostracized in culture and society might really identify with this film because it鈥檚 really about a guy who is just trying to figure out who he is but he鈥檚 also repressing a lot of who he is because he鈥檚 ashamed of it. I think it鈥檚 a common story.

You mention being weary. Do you have a sense that this six-year process has been worth it?

I think it might be like having children in how hard it is. But when you have a kid who鈥檚 two or three, you forget about how hard it was raising a kid. And I wouldn鈥檛 be surprised if we got caught up with that in the filmmaking process. We鈥檙e already daydreaming about our next screenplay, and we hope we鈥檒l be blessed enough to make it鈥he statistics are not with us. To make another one is to just sort of to go back out there and start shooting from behind the arc, trying to make threes. It鈥檚 always a good challenge. I think our chances of getting the next film made are better if we have a success (with this one).

You were quoted in a Washington Post as saying, 鈥淭he average Christian wants clean answers, clean characters 鈥 鈥業 was bad then Jesus happened to me, now I became good.鈥 Not, 鈥業 grew up in church and I saw a lot of hypocrisy and I walked away and I realized God exists outside of church.鈥 Is there still value in church?

Well sure, yeah. But isn鈥檛 (what I said) an obvious statement? Would anyone who goes to church think that God doesn鈥檛 exist outside the church? Wouldn鈥檛 you say that they are crazy? Isn鈥檛 that an extremely arrogant assumption to say that the only place you鈥檙e going to find God is at church? That would be really offensive to me if somebody said that.

But I do think that there鈥檚 this element in church culture that we want to own God and control him, and they want to charge for him, that you can only get him at this store. I just absolutely don鈥檛 believe that鈥檚 true at all.

I have a friend who was excited when he heard I was going to interview you. He wrote:

鈥淚 am not sure what my relationship with God is, or will become. I want that to happen, but I am bogged down by religion. I think Miller鈥檚 writing helps dissect some of that disconnect, but I would like to know if he has any thoughts about where that journey of discovery can start. I find it intimidating. How can this journey be done in a way that is not overly convoluted by 鈥渂eing told the right way鈥 and discovering for oneself?

I would just say, the thing is鈥攊t鈥檚 still hard, man鈥攂ut just to go directly to the source. Just go to God and talk to God and pray to God and trust that he can guide you. To me that鈥檚 the first step and that begins with prayer. And God somehow takes care of us.

Adam Jeske has served in Nicaragua, China, and South Africa and regularly contributes to . With his wife and co-author, , he has written  (IVP, September, 2012). He , , and serves as the Associate Director of Communications for 果冻视频. 

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